How can we break the OPEC oil cartel for $100 a car? Engineer Bob Zubrin has the answer — by requiring all new cars sold in the United States to be flex-fuel vehicles that can run not just on gasoline, but on ethanol and methanol.

We talk to Zubrin about his new book, Energy Victory: Winning the War on Terror by Breaking Free of Oil,about how oil money funds terrorism, and about how proven off-the-shelf technology could undercut OPEC’s power.

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